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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul and his Fascist Gang of Idiots&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: yellow</title>
		<link>http://www.manchicken.com/2007/politics/ron-paul-and-his-fascist-gang-of-idiots.html/comment-page-2#comment-1660</link>
		<dc:creator>yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On Medicare, I would also agree that socialized medicine is not the answer. The more we put our tax money into creating these massive federal programs, the more inefficient they tend to become.&quot;

Ok, for one.. give me ANY proof of that claim. 

For two, as long as their is a profit motive private enterprises will cater to where the most money is to be had, the rich.

For three, government intervention is the only thing standing between humanity and the dollar. When money becomes more important than someones life I believe we have gone wrong as a society, no matter the color of their skin or their social status.. A healthy, well educated work force is proven to more effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On Medicare, I would also agree that socialized medicine is not the answer. The more we put our tax money into creating these massive federal programs, the more inefficient they tend to become.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok, for one.. give me ANY proof of that claim. </p>
<p>For two, as long as their is a profit motive private enterprises will cater to where the most money is to be had, the rich.</p>
<p>For three, government intervention is the only thing standing between humanity and the dollar. When money becomes more important than someones life I believe we have gone wrong as a society, no matter the color of their skin or their social status.. A healthy, well educated work force is proven to more effective.</p>
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		<title>By: manchicken</title>
		<link>http://www.manchicken.com/2007/politics/ron-paul-and-his-fascist-gang-of-idiots.html/comment-page-2#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>manchicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bob: Wow.  Sounds like you really think you&#039;re better than everybody else.  People coming into the US and having jobs and feeding their families is no threat, so there&#039;s no just cause to &quot;defend&quot; against it.  Ron Paul&#039;s racist ties and personal racism are well-known, and I&#039;m certainly not the only one reporting on it.  If you&#039;d pull your head out of the sand you&#039;d see that.

stephen: Yes, actually, I have seen all these things.  As a youth minister on the south side of Chicago I saw a great many things... most of them good.  The city is doing a lot to help the poor in that area: they have food banks, WIC--a program that provides mothers and their infants with food and healthcare--they have education, they have Link which is a debit-card type program to help lower-income families get food.  I&#039;ve seen a great many situations where the government does help the poor, and just because you&#039;re holding yourself back by being too scared and ignorant doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not going on.  You seem to think you know what goes on in the inner-city, but you don&#039;t.  I&#039;ve been in the middle of it, and I&#039;ve worked with the young people to whom it is a daily fact of life.  You should really be more careful who you accuse of being ignorant, &quot;sir&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bob: Wow.  Sounds like you really think you&#8217;re better than everybody else.  People coming into the US and having jobs and feeding their families is no threat, so there&#8217;s no just cause to &#8220;defend&#8221; against it.  Ron Paul&#8217;s racist ties and personal racism are well-known, and I&#8217;m certainly not the only one reporting on it.  If you&#8217;d pull your head out of the sand you&#8217;d see that.</p>
<p>stephen: Yes, actually, I have seen all these things.  As a youth minister on the south side of Chicago I saw a great many things&#8230; most of them good.  The city is doing a lot to help the poor in that area: they have food banks, WIC&#8211;a program that provides mothers and their infants with food and healthcare&#8211;they have education, they have Link which is a debit-card type program to help lower-income families get food.  I&#8217;ve seen a great many situations where the government does help the poor, and just because you&#8217;re holding yourself back by being too scared and ignorant doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not going on.  You seem to think you know what goes on in the inner-city, but you don&#8217;t.  I&#8217;ve been in the middle of it, and I&#8217;ve worked with the young people to whom it is a daily fact of life.  You should really be more careful who you accuse of being ignorant, &#8220;sir&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the current government helpingthe poor?  Have you seen an inner city yet?  have you seen the gang fights between blacks and hispanics?  You twist his words completely qround for your own sick agenda. Helping the poor is by doing things to help themselves. I could go on, but if you dont get the point from that sentence, you wont get anything there is to say because you have so much wax the government has put in your ears so that you could be their puppet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the current government helpingthe poor?  Have you seen an inner city yet?  have you seen the gang fights between blacks and hispanics?  You twist his words completely qround for your own sick agenda. Helping the poor is by doing things to help themselves. I could go on, but if you dont get the point from that sentence, you wont get anything there is to say because you have so much wax the government has put in your ears so that you could be their puppet.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.manchicken.com/2007/politics/ron-paul-and-his-fascist-gang-of-idiots.html/comment-page-2#comment-1118</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manchicken, your not very well researched, and run on your faulty assumptions.  Could it be your an immigrant, and your just working towards making illegals naturalized before all the others who have been waiting legaly?

I think this generation of mexicans are pretty brazen to tell an entire nation they dont deserve a country.  To me that an act of war, and our borders should be secured.

And how is self defense racist?  I think the word racist is used to lightly by zealots who never get what they want because what they want is insane, not the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manchicken, your not very well researched, and run on your faulty assumptions.  Could it be your an immigrant, and your just working towards making illegals naturalized before all the others who have been waiting legaly?</p>
<p>I think this generation of mexicans are pretty brazen to tell an entire nation they dont deserve a country.  To me that an act of war, and our borders should be secured.</p>
<p>And how is self defense racist?  I think the word racist is used to lightly by zealots who never get what they want because what they want is insane, not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Holland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Ron Paul is the last chance for liberty and a return to limited government in America today. 
Read and sign the Ron Paul Is Right – Abolish the Federal Reserve Petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/fed/petition.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Ron Paul is the last chance for liberty and a return to limited government in America today.<br />
Read and sign the Ron Paul Is Right – Abolish the Federal Reserve Petition at <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/fed/petition.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/fed/petition.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 03:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have our hatred for him behind you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have our hatred for him behind you!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 02:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, I couldn&#039;t agree more, the best way to help them is to STOP CREATING THEM. The best way to help poor people is to stop creating them! (That&#039;s why I advocate abortion for those who can&#039;t afford a child!)

But I can still see an argument for existing veterans, poor people, and victims of the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, I couldn&#8217;t agree more, the best way to help them is to STOP CREATING THEM. The best way to help poor people is to stop creating them! (That&#8217;s why I advocate abortion for those who can&#8217;t afford a child!)</p>
<p>But I can still see an argument for existing veterans, poor people, and victims of the system.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kept it short and each point could be a debate in itself, but for starters you wrote:

According to his own statements (quoted here), Ron Paul does not believe that the federal government should:

1. Help the poor.

Right now the government not only doesn&#039;t help the poor, it continues to increase their ranks by giving the impression that they can be helped by the government thereby enticing many to a handout cultural motif.
 
2. Help people who have survived disasters.

We only need look to Katrina victims and the like to see that we not only didn&#039;t help them, we just diverted money to some mobile home company while people floated in their attics. By providing government insurance, we allow people to move into geographical regions not suitable for long-term stability.
 
3. Help people who cannot afford healthcare.

I do not have health care and will not see any until the price drops low enough for a policy I can afford.
 
4. Help senior citizens.

A compassionate family will see to the health care of their parents. Those that risk old-age without familial ties will always be at a far greater risk than those who raised a solid family. In the darwinian world, lifestyles dictate long term survival. If an individual does not reproduce and nurture to successful adulthood their offspring, that genetic line risks termination.
 
5. Help veterans.

The best way to help veterens is to STOP CREATING THEM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kept it short and each point could be a debate in itself, but for starters you wrote:</p>
<p>According to his own statements (quoted here), Ron Paul does not believe that the federal government should:</p>
<p>1. Help the poor.</p>
<p>Right now the government not only doesn&#8217;t help the poor, it continues to increase their ranks by giving the impression that they can be helped by the government thereby enticing many to a handout cultural motif.</p>
<p>2. Help people who have survived disasters.</p>
<p>We only need look to Katrina victims and the like to see that we not only didn&#8217;t help them, we just diverted money to some mobile home company while people floated in their attics. By providing government insurance, we allow people to move into geographical regions not suitable for long-term stability.</p>
<p>3. Help people who cannot afford healthcare.</p>
<p>I do not have health care and will not see any until the price drops low enough for a policy I can afford.</p>
<p>4. Help senior citizens.</p>
<p>A compassionate family will see to the health care of their parents. Those that risk old-age without familial ties will always be at a far greater risk than those who raised a solid family. In the darwinian world, lifestyles dictate long term survival. If an individual does not reproduce and nurture to successful adulthood their offspring, that genetic line risks termination.</p>
<p>5. Help veterans.</p>
<p>The best way to help veterens is to STOP CREATING THEM.</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy Martinez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I&#039;ve stayed away from this for a while and here is my response to the original post.  Ron Paul is ignorant.  Yes, yes bash away but here is some proof: he believes immigrants will &quot;Be diseased and carry those diseases in to infect our population. Cause huge crime problems. Damage American culture (this is the one I find most racist, by the way)&quot;  ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?? Anyone that has ever studied the history of immigration knows that THIS IS THE SAME ARGUMENT AGAINST IMMIGRATION FOR A DIFFERENT GROUPS.  People have made this argument again the Irish, Chinese, Polish.  The only thing different is the group and because Ron Paul doesn&#039;t understand history, he makes the same ignorant argument people have been making for hundreds of years.  Disagree with me? Fine, I can accept that so I challenge you to do one thing for me: define &quot;American culture&quot; and tell me exactly what will be destroyed.   This country is literally ALL immigrants (just go ask your parents, grandparents, great-granparents, eventually you&#039;ll find an immigrant).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;ve stayed away from this for a while and here is my response to the original post.  Ron Paul is ignorant.  Yes, yes bash away but here is some proof: he believes immigrants will &#8220;Be diseased and carry those diseases in to infect our population. Cause huge crime problems. Damage American culture (this is the one I find most racist, by the way)&#8221;  ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?? Anyone that has ever studied the history of immigration knows that THIS IS THE SAME ARGUMENT AGAINST IMMIGRATION FOR A DIFFERENT GROUPS.  People have made this argument again the Irish, Chinese, Polish.  The only thing different is the group and because Ron Paul doesn&#8217;t understand history, he makes the same ignorant argument people have been making for hundreds of years.  Disagree with me? Fine, I can accept that so I challenge you to do one thing for me: define &#8220;American culture&#8221; and tell me exactly what will be destroyed.   This country is literally ALL immigrants (just go ask your parents, grandparents, great-granparents, eventually you&#8217;ll find an immigrant).</p>
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		<title>By: Dempsey</title>
		<link>http://www.manchicken.com/2007/politics/ron-paul-and-his-fascist-gang-of-idiots.html/comment-page-2#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator>Dempsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not impervious to typos. it is not constiuito;, but constitution.

Regards, Dempsey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not impervious to typos. it is not constiuito;, but constitution.</p>
<p>Regards, Dempsey</p>
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