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	<title>Comments on: Sun, do you REALLY care about Free Software?</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oomu</title>
		<link>http://www.manchicken.com/2007/ranting/sun-do-you-really-care-about-free-software.html#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>oomu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>java is not solaris or even opensolaris.</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.manchicken.com/2007/ranting/sun-do-you-really-care-about-free-software.html#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here is an experiment:  Try and download a solaris install iso without having to sign up for a sun.com user account and give personal information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is an experiment:  Try and download a solaris install iso without having to sign up for a sun.com user account and give personal information.</p>
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		<title>By: oomu</title>
		<link>http://www.manchicken.com/2007/ranting/sun-do-you-really-care-about-free-software.html#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>oomu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>opening (and freeing) of JAVA is _true_

java 7 will be gpl2.  it's not "would" or "should", it's _will_ , a fact , a truth

no more doubt

I saw (meetings and conferences) enough sun talk with sun employees about future of java to have understand the message : "YES it's True Dammit!"

some part of java are already gpl (hotspot for example, it's not insignifiant)

some stuff (2D rasterization for example) are still IP-encumbered.  it will stop java 6 to be free(dom),  but Sun is sure the code will be rewritten in 2007.  not 2009 or 2050 : 2007

Java 7 is announced for 2008, maybe 2009. but we will see a gpl source of all sun java classes for developpers before that.


so
it's not IF, it's REAL.  Sun is REALLY freeing 6 MILLIONS of Source Code.

they're REALLY moving from a proprietary software control source code to an open one  (cvs or subversion, I forgot) ,  _now_.
they are working on it from one year.


they will not stop until all java is free.   

https://openjdk.dev.java.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>opening (and freeing) of JAVA is _true_</p>
<p>java 7 will be gpl2.  it&#8217;s not &#8220;would&#8221; or &#8220;should&#8221;, it&#8217;s _will_ , a fact , a truth</p>
<p>no more doubt</p>
<p>I saw (meetings and conferences) enough sun talk with sun employees about future of java to have understand the message : &#8220;YES it&#8217;s True Dammit!&#8221;</p>
<p>some part of java are already gpl (hotspot for example, it&#8217;s not insignifiant)</p>
<p>some stuff (2D rasterization for example) are still IP-encumbered.  it will stop java 6 to be free(dom),  but Sun is sure the code will be rewritten in 2007.  not 2009 or 2050 : 2007</p>
<p>Java 7 is announced for 2008, maybe 2009. but we will see a gpl source of all sun java classes for developpers before that.</p>
<p>so<br />
it&#8217;s not IF, it&#8217;s REAL.  Sun is REALLY freeing 6 MILLIONS of Source Code.</p>
<p>they&#8217;re REALLY moving from a proprietary software control source code to an open one  (cvs or subversion, I forgot) ,  _now_.<br />
they are working on it from one year.</p>
<p>they will not stop until all java is free.   </p>
<p><a href="https://openjdk.dev.java.net/" rel="nofollow">https://openjdk.dev.java.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.manchicken.com/2007/ranting/sun-do-you-really-care-about-free-software.html#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitly recomment watching the Freeing Java talk from fosdem. Some higher Sun guy explaining their strategy.
http://fosdem.org/2007/media/video

Was quite convincing for me. Sun opening up java did not come as that much of a surprise anyway. They have been preparing that for a long time. I was way more surprised to see them opening Solaris.

Anyway lots of great news coming from suns side. They also seem to be quite involved in gnome developement - which i really welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitly recomment watching the Freeing Java talk from fosdem. Some higher Sun guy explaining their strategy.<br />
<a href="http://fosdem.org/2007/media/video" rel="nofollow">http://fosdem.org/2007/media/video</a></p>
<p>Was quite convincing for me. Sun opening up java did not come as that much of a surprise anyway. They have been preparing that for a long time. I was way more surprised to see them opening Solaris.</p>
<p>Anyway lots of great news coming from suns side. They also seem to be quite involved in gnome developement - which i really welcome.</p>
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